Yeah, I encountered that too and I do not perceive it. The backstory of the WW video games, or a minimum of a few of them, is predicated in Christian beliefs and apocrypha. So I’m shocked by how vociferously these followers despise that complete faith and the individuals who observe it. Actually no, doublethink appears to be commonplace in these circles.

The WW neighborhood was fairly unusual typically.  I have not performed it for the reason that reboot within the 2000s, however I bear in mind the WW-d10 system being crunchy as hell, but they handled it as a story gaming system.

Additionally, the unique V:tM books learn like “it is a sport about enjoying a monster; a metaphor for the battle between the rational good and base animalistic natures of the human situation; you’ll inevitably ‘lose’ and uncover the ethical lesson.”  But the WW neighborhood embraced it as some kind of celebration of degeneracy (somewhat than the cautionary metaphor that I imagine the style initially supposed), and the followup merchandise performed to this buyer base (which is comprehensible I suppose, though disappointing).

My conclusion ended up being: V:tM attracted the idiocracy, who then chased off the individuals who did not need to use it as a automobile to embrace degeneracy.

It was just about a shit-fest even again then, so I am unable to think about how hilarious it should be now.  Lol.

Yeah. I bear in mind studying on one of many public PBP boards individuals writing stuff like a vampire dominatrix strolling her werewolf sub on a leash in entrance of everybody else or a cannibal vampire serial killer sadistically mutilating and disemboweling an harmless girl alive. For comparability, Critical Role (or whoever) lately did some formally sponsored campaigns the place their vampires are genuinely good individuals who by no means do unhealthy or difficult issues ever (that is apparently how all zoomers play the sport). Neither excessive sounds fascinating to me.

I used to be launched via the 2000s reboot and appreciated it over the older setting (which WW followers nonetheless give me grief for if I ever really feel silly sufficient to say it) however I left within the early 2010s when it grew to become clear to me that WW had no thought what they have been doing in addition to catering to the nostalgia of a fanbase that additionally had no thought what they needed. I Started finding out different city fantasy video games (principally OOP, due to course) with the aim of constructing my very own. I Got annoyed with how apathetic and insular tabletop fandom in that space is, so I made a decision to enter prose writing and crpgs as a result of these are literally development sectors. There’s been principally no profitable contemporary-set city fantasy crpg since Troika’s Bloodlines bombed in 2004, so the style house is totally untapped.

The poisonous perspective in geekdom was there earlier than it latched on to trendy id and sexual politics. It was there within the White Wolf neighborhood, and it was there within the D&D 4e neighborhood. It was laborious to place a finger on, nevertheless it was there (see my sig).

I had an expertise within the early 2000s with a WW discussion board the place I should have stated one thing vaguely pleasant or optimistic in the direction of Christianity (I used to be a working towards although definitely not proselytizing Christian on the time) and a few dude PM’d me completely frothing on the mouth and attempting to get me to defend and clarify Christian beliefs which I had not introduced up and had no want to debate. Then he slandered me and tried to show the discussion board in opposition to me. This is the sort of sick psychology that grew to become obsessive about gender ideology a decade later. They hate their dad and mom, their ancestral tradition as represented by Christianity, for instance, and search to destroy and exclude. It’s the identical mentality that led to the worst features of the French and Russian revolutions. A infantile, satanic rage (I say that now as a non-theist, as it is the psychological archetype that I consult with).

Do not have interaction. Exclude them, make your personal areas.

…their ancestral tradition as represented by Christianity…
That tradition is outlined by Odinism, which has been erased by christianity.

Do not have interaction. Exclude them, make your personal areas.
Will do. Thanks!

I ponder why this cunt is defending the racist cunt Varg Vikernes…

Wait. Why are there two camps? It’s both conservative, pro-life, anti woke, christian OR progressive, “liberal”, woke, atheist.
I’m an atheist. Pro-choice. Anti woke. Neither conservative nor progressive. (EthNat)

Anyways.

Any tips about alternate options for Discord?

Who needs to wager which means Ethno-Nationalist?

You’re a racist cunt, like your idol Varg Vikernes.

If you suppose you are welcome right here as a result of we opposse the OTHER racist cunts (SJWs) you are sorely mistaken.

Where? Is there a wholesome various to Discord?

It was talked about already, however this is a hyperlink:

https://www.guilded.gg/

Just watch out whenever you go there. I looked for dungeons & and earlier than it received to the top of the phrase dungeon, it populated a number of responses, together with “intercourse dungeons” – until that is your factor…