While there are people who find themselves claiming that having six inches of peak and fifteen kilos of muscle over the opposite gamers would not give the MtFs a bonus in sports activities, jhkim hasn’t made that declare on this thread.  He’s said {that a} boy taking part in in opposition to women in volleyball is not inherently harmful for the women.  Which, with the disclaimer that I do not care sufficient to really dig for harm statistics in highschool volleyball, feels like a good sufficient declare to make.  It’s hardly a full-contact sport.

If jhkim had claimed {that a} dude had zero benefit in attain or energy over women regardless of dwelling 80% of his life awash in testosterone and it was completely honest and heckin’ legitimate uwu, then I might name bullshit.    But that is a really totally different declare from saying that he is in all probability not a hazard to the opposite gamers.

Thanks, Valatar.

To make clear a bit — I do suppose there’s a hazard of concussion and different harm. But tons of highschool sports activities have important hazard of harm no matter intercourse. Among highschool women’ sports activities, soccer has the very best concussion price. Girl’s volleyball has a major concussion price, round one-third that of boys’ soccer and half that of lady’s soccer. Even cheerleading has a major concussion price, unsurprising given the acrobatic flips they typically do.

cf. https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/144/5/e20192180/38225/Concussion-Incidence-and-Trends-in-20-High-School

Still, women soccer and coed volleyball are typically thought of inside the acceptable ranges of threat, and underneath customary event guidelines coed video games permit precisely the play seen within the unique submit, with a male participant spiking the ball in direction of a feminine participant.

  This will not be precisely true, because it relies upon on the web peak, if a girls’s peak internet Men are NOT ALLOWED TO SPIKE IN THE FRONT COURT AT ALL.  They could hit (overhand) however they can’t spike.  I’m going to imagine you don’t perceive the variations so you’re simply pondering they’re the identical scenario.  They will not be shut, with a 7 inch distinction in peak (which whether it is males’s peak a person can spike within the entrance court docket, and given the non aggressive athletes within the entrance court docket, that is a lot much less a problem on the better peak)

  So briefly your whole argument is full bullshit since this was clearly a case of a dude spiking within the entrance court docket on a feminine peak internet.  Something unlawful within the coed play you retain making an attempt to invoke as some form of rationalization that this was OK. 

Still, women soccer and coed volleyball are typically thought of inside the acceptable ranges of threat, and underneath customary event guidelines coed video games permit precisely the play seen within the unique submit, with a male participant spiking the ball in direction of a feminine participant.

  This will not be precisely true, as it relies upon on the web peak, if a girls’s peak internet Men are NOT ALLOWED TO SPIKE IN THE FRONT COURT AT ALL.  They could hit (overhand) however they can’t spike.  I’m going to imagine you don’t perceive the variations so you’re simply pondering they’re the identical scenario.

  So briefly your whole argument is full bullshit since this was clearly a case of a dude spiking within the entrance court docket on a feminine peak internet.  Something unlawful within the coed play you retain making an attempt to invoke as some form of rationalization that this was OK.

I particularly talked about “reverse coed” as a variant again in my Reply #17, so sure, I do perceive this and I already talked about it. However, the usual event guidelines use a males’s peak internet and males are allowed to spike. It is named “reverse” as a result of it isn’t the standard case, based on the nationwide affiliation “Volleyball USA”.

So, sure, the web peak is a distinction between a typical coed recreation and a typical women recreation. The lady’s recreation may have the web set 7 inches decrease.

I settle for that it’s not a precise parallel, then, and I can not say precisely the impact that it might have.

Given this, if a faculty modified it so that every one volleyball video games (boys/women/coed) had the web set on the similar peak as customary coed, do you suppose that women video games would then be protected sufficient no matter transgender participation?