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Topic: High college volleyball participant injured in sport towards Trans participant and other people…  (Read 1077 occasions)

Same with most sports activities….individuals who don’t have any idea of bodily tradition, understanding of the DRASTIC distinction between women and men concerning energy and energy manufacturing within the second of efficiency or who simply by no means raise weights or play sports activities don’t perceive this and perhaps by no means will.  Maybe they only ignore actuality interval. I have no idea, I want to err on the aspect that folks pondering there is no such thing as a distinction in possibilities of accidents when males play towards ladies are simply bookish nerds with zero expertise with sports activities, full contact actions, or any actual makes an attempt at coaching their bodily potential.

Volleyball is definitely the game I’ve essentially the most private expertise with. I performed volleyball recreationally in undergrad, and was in the summertime volleyball league at Fermilab throughout grad college. That’s not the identical as prime aggressive play, nevertheless it’s one thing I perceive. The league I performed in was blended gender, and certainly, blended gender volleyball is recurrently performed within the U.S. and elsewhere. I simply watched some right here to refresh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-XOz7mIFTQ

Men are usually bigger and stronger than ladies, however there’s nonetheless a protracted historical past of aggressive mixed-gender sports activities – like blended doubles tennis and mixed-team volleyball. These have been round for a lot of many years.

In coed volleyball, there are guidelines for equity and for security – however it’s nonetheless true that girls are sometimes hitting again a ball that has been hit by males. According your security argument, coed volleyball ought to have an unacceptable degree of damage such that it’s banned, no matter any transgender points. I do not see any motion for such, although. I see numerous such tournaments being held with no controversy.

I am unable to discover from fast search any concussion charges for coed in comparison with single-gender volleyball. I’m not claiming that I do know the speed is similar. But I additionally do not assume will probably be off the charts as you declare.

Hey intellectually dishonest shitbag groomer, this incident the place the feminine participant was injured WAS NOT A COED VOLLEYBALL GAME. It was a sport the place a organic male was declared a feminine due to bullshit transgender politics. Go discover some place else to inform your lies.

“I don’t need to create a narrative, I need to create a stage. The participant characters will carry out on that stage and work together with the setting. When the gamers discuss to their associates about what their characters did, then there can be a narrative.”


Are you degenerates utterly lacking the truth that the typical youth volleyball groups steadily undergo accidents on this scope or worse on a weekly foundation, or have you ever merely chosen to proceed ignoring something that goes does not affirm your bias?

Physical sports activities, esp when performed by amateurs coached by volunteer academics who barely have time to train of their free time not to mention know greater than the cliff notes handed down by means of the years by OTHER volunteer coaches, are ALWAYS going to contain accidents. I come from a moderately sporty household and there’s hardly ever a time when one among my seven nephews/nieces ISN’T injured as a consequence of participation of their respective gender-segregated sport of selection.

What a bunch of clowns you all are.


  There are co ed beer pong groups and darts competitions too for sofa potatoes to get some train.  Bringing a rec league up in an try and make a comparability tells me you might be as clueless as I mentioned you might be.    You even undermine your individual level by saying there are particular guidelines when blended….

There are totally different guidelines in event coed video games. However, the accident proven in your unique publish might legally have occurred in a normal event coed sport, with a male participant spiking the ball which strikes a feminine participant midway again within the courtroom. There is a variant known as “reverse coed” the place males gamers cannot be up on the web to spike, however that’s much less widespread. In my publish, I gave a hyperlink which reveals event play (not rec league) the place precisely these performs occur.

Hey intellectually dishonest shitbag groomer, this incident the place the feminine participant was injured WAS NOT A COED VOLLEYBALL GAME. It was a sport the place a organic male was declared a feminine due to bullshit transgender politics. Go discover some place else to inform your lies.

Hi, jeff37923. Sorry if I wasn’t clear. I used to be not claiming that the sport within the unique publish was coed.

My level is that coed volleyball video games are widespread, and generally (although not all the time) have the scenario the place a male participant can spike the ball that’s obtained by a feminine participant. This is related in estimating the dangers concerned in video games.


  There are co ed beer pong groups and darts competitions too for sofa potatoes to get some train.  Bringing a rec league up in an try and make a comparability tells me you might be as clueless as I mentioned you might be.    You even undermine your individual level by saying there are particular guidelines when blended….

There are totally different guidelines in event coed video games. However, the accident proven in your unique publish might legally have occurred in a normal event coed sport, with a male participant spiking the ball which strikes a feminine participant midway again within the courtroom. There is a variant known as “reverse coed” the place males gamers cannot be up on the web to spike, however that’s much less widespread. In my publish, I gave a hyperlink which reveals event play (not rec league) the place precisely these performs occur.

Hey intellectually dishonest shitbag groomer, this incident the place the feminine participant was injured WAS NOT A COED VOLLEYBALL GAME. It was a sport the place a organic male was declared a feminine due to bullshit transgender politics. Go discover some place else to inform your lies.

Hi, jeff37923. Sorry if I wasn’t clear. I used to be not claiming that the sport within the unique publish was coed.

My level is that coed volleyball video games are widespread, and generally (although not all the time) have the scenario the place a male participant can spike the ball that’s obtained by a feminine participant. This is related in estimating the dangers concerned in video games.

Except this wasn’t a coed volleyball sport. It was imagined to be a ladies’s volleyball sport besides it had a man there who hid behind the political bullshit of being a organic male claiming to be trans.

“I don’t need to create a narrative, I need to create a stage. The participant characters will carry out on that stage and work together with the setting. When the gamers discuss to their associates about what their characters did, then there can be a narrative.”


Jhkim is making excellent sense.  If boys enjoying towards women in volleyball do not recurrently injure them, there is not any motive for somebody to count on that letting this boy play towards women was placing them in any hazard.  It might nicely have been an entire fluke, the ball hit at simply the worst potential spot, and never an inevitable factor.  It’s volleyball, not boxing; getting smashed within the face by your opponent just isn’t an anticipated consequence of enjoying.

That mentioned, the workforce with the ladies ought to have had the choice to say no to play towards a boy in the event that they felt uncomfortable or in danger from it.  I’ve no objection to ladies competing towards boys, so long as they go in knowledgeable.  Girl desires to play baseball?  Sure.  Football?  Great.  If she will take the hits, extra energy to her.  Same for boys going into women video games, as long as everybody agrees beforehand.  But they need to have the correct to not agree.


Sorry if I wasn’t clear. I used to be not claiming that the sport within the unique publish was coed.

My level is that coed volleyball video games are widespread, and generally (although not all the time) have the scenario the place a male participant can spike the ball that’s obtained by a feminine participant. This is related in estimating the dangers concerned in video games.

Except this wasn’t a coed volleyball sport. It was imagined to be a ladies’s volleyball sport besides it had a man there who hid behind the political bullshit of being a organic male claiming to be trans.

We’re nonetheless speaking previous one another. Let me attempt to undergo this in steps.

1) The hyperlink from oggsmash’s unique publish was a highschool women volleyball sport.

2) An unnamed particular person claimed that the participant spiking the ball is transgender, although not one of the individuals concerned are quoted as confirming that.

3) The article additionally advised this accident was inevitable as a result of the spiking participant has better energy than any non-transgender lady participant might have. Having such energy was portrayed as unreasonably harmful for non-transgender lady gamers.

4) I questioned this conclusion. For comparability, I regarded on the instances of each women volleyball and coed volleyball.

5) In knowledge going again 17 years, NCAA knowledge discovered that concussion occasions in ladies’s volleyball was second solely to males’s soccer in frequency.

6) I haven’t got concussion statistics for coed volleyball, however (a) it has been extensively performed in championships for many years, (b) commonplace coed event guidelines enable precisely the accident proven, the place a male participant spikes the ball and a feminine participant is within the path. I linked to video exhibiting precisely that.


   The particular person spiking the ball was a trannie.  If you go searching it’s fairly apparent, and each workforce within the convention instantly declined enjoying any future video games towards the workforce as long as that participant is on the workforce.  Coed volleyball continues to be a non starter….you might be speaking a couple of scenario the place the ladies know precisely what they’re moving into (and truthfully not more likely to compete towards any athletic males) and are older.  That is a poor comparability to teenagers who possible have dad and mom and coaches too afraid to only inform the opposite workforce “no thanks”.  Have no worries, ought to this bullshit roll over in direction of my zip code, you’re going to get an opportunity to learn a narrative about me and the opposite dad and mom giving that one a really loud, very boisterous arduous cross.


Jhkim is making excellent sense. If boys enjoying towards women in volleyball do not recurrently injure them, there is not any motive for somebody to count on that letting this boy play towards women was placing them in any hazard.  It might nicely have been an entire fluke, the ball hit at simply the worst potential spot, and never an inevitable factor.  It’s volleyball, not boxing; getting smashed within the face by your opponent just isn’t an anticipated consequence of enjoying.

That mentioned, the workforce with the ladies ought to have had the choice to say no to play towards a boy in the event that they felt uncomfortable or in danger from it.  I’ve no objection to ladies competing towards boys, so long as they go in knowledgeable.  Girl desires to play baseball?  Sure.  Football?  Great.  If she will take the hits, extra energy to her.  Same for boys going into women video games, as long as everybody agrees beforehand.  But they need to have the correct to not agree.

jhkim’s argument is predicated on saying {that a} organic male is similar as a organic feminine so long as that male claims to be a male to feminine trans. That solely is smart in Clown World.

“I don’t need to create a narrative, I need to create a stage. The participant characters will carry out on that stage and work together with the setting. When the gamers discuss to their associates about what their characters did, then there can be a narrative.”


Sorry if I wasn’t clear. I used to be not claiming that the sport within the unique publish was coed.

My level is that coed volleyball video games are widespread, and generally (although not all the time) have the scenario the place a male participant can spike the ball that’s obtained by a feminine participant. This is related in estimating the dangers concerned in video games.

Except this wasn’t a coed volleyball sport. It was imagined to be a ladies’s volleyball sport besides it had a man there who hid behind the political bullshit of being a organic male claiming to be trans.

We’re nonetheless speaking previous one another. Let me attempt to undergo this in steps.

1) The hyperlink from oggsmash’s unique publish was a highschool women volleyball sport.

2) An unnamed particular person claimed that the participant spiking the ball is transgender, although not one of the individuals concerned are quoted as confirming that.

3) The article additionally advised this accident was inevitable as a result of the spiking participant has better energy than any non-transgender lady participant might have. Having such energy was portrayed as unreasonably harmful for non-transgender lady gamers.

4) I questioned this conclusion. For comparability, I regarded on the instances of each women volleyball and coed volleyball.

5) In knowledge going again 17 years, NCAA knowledge discovered that concussion occasions in ladies’s volleyball was second solely to males’s soccer in frequency.

6) I haven’t got concussion statistics for coed volleyball, however (a) it has been extensively performed in championships for many years, (b) commonplace coed event guidelines enable precisely the accident proven, the place a male participant spikes the ball and a feminine participant is within the path. I linked to video exhibiting precisely that.

No, you might be being intellectually dishonest and NOW claiming that the participant spiking the ball was not a male-to-female trans. At first, you have been dismissing the damage to the feminine participant based mostly upon your argument that coed volleyball is similar as all ladies’s or all males’s volleyball – which will get thrown out the window whenever you declare {that a} organic male trans is similar as a girl.

“I don’t need to create a narrative, I need to create a stage. The participant characters will carry out on that stage and work together with the setting. When the gamers discuss to their associates about what their characters did, then there can be a narrative.”


Same with most sports activities….individuals who don’t have any idea of bodily tradition, understanding of the DRASTIC distinction between women and men concerning energy and energy manufacturing within the second of efficiency or who simply by no means raise weights or play sports activities don’t perceive this and perhaps by no means will.  Maybe they only ignore actuality interval. I have no idea, I want to err on the aspect that folks pondering there is no such thing as a distinction in possibilities of accidents when males play towards ladies are simply bookish nerds with zero expertise with sports activities, full contact actions, or any actual makes an attempt at coaching their bodily potential.

Volleyball is definitely the game I’ve essentially the most private expertise with. I performed volleyball recreationally in undergrad, and was in the summertime volleyball league at Fermilab throughout grad college. That’s not the identical as prime aggressive play, nevertheless it’s one thing I perceive. The league I performed in was blended gender, and certainly, blended gender volleyball is recurrently performed within the U.S. and elsewhere. I simply watched some right here to refresh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-XOz7mIFTQ

Men are usually bigger and stronger than ladies, however there’s nonetheless a protracted historical past of aggressive mixed-gender sports activities – like blended doubles tennis and mixed-team volleyball. These have been round for a lot of many years.

In coed volleyball, there are guidelines for equity and for security – however it’s nonetheless true that girls are sometimes hitting again a ball that has been hit by males. According your security argument, coed volleyball ought to have an unacceptable degree of damage such that it’s banned, no matter any transgender points. I do not see any motion for such, although. I see numerous such tournaments being held with no controversy.

I am unable to discover from fast search any concussion charges for coed in comparison with single-gender volleyball. I’m not claiming that I do know the speed is similar. But I additionally do not assume will probably be off the charts as you declare.

But this wasn’t co-ed volleyball, proper?  It was a lady’s volleyball sport through which a boy was enjoying for the opposite workforce.


Jhkim is making excellent sense.  If boys enjoying towards women in volleyball do not recurrently injure them, there is not any motive for somebody to count on that letting this boy play towards women was placing them in any hazard.  It might nicely have been an entire fluke, the ball hit at simply the worst potential spot, and never an inevitable factor.  It’s volleyball, not boxing; getting smashed within the face by your opponent just isn’t an anticipated consequence of enjoying.

Thanks, Valatar. I’ve been having bother conveying this, however that’s what I used to be making an attempt to say.

That mentioned, the workforce with the ladies ought to have had the choice to say no to play towards a boy in the event that they felt uncomfortable or in danger from it.  I’ve no objection to ladies competing towards boys, so long as they go in knowledgeable.  Girl desires to play baseball?  Sure.  Football?  Great.  If she will take the hits, extra energy to her.  Same for boys going into women video games, as long as everybody agrees beforehand.  But they need to have the correct to not agree.

Fair sufficient. It is smart that if everyone seems to be knowledgeable and agrees to play, that it is their enterprise. Zelen advised that women’ athletics ought to all be participation solely with no championships. I do not assume there must be just one method – totally different locations can run issues in a different way.


No, you might be being intellectually dishonest and NOW claiming that the participant spiking the ball was not a male-to-female trans. At first, you have been dismissing the damage to the feminine participant based mostly upon your argument that coed volleyball is similar as all ladies’s or all males’s volleyball – which will get thrown out the window whenever you declare {that a} organic male trans is similar as a girl.

I do not know if the participant spiking the ball is transgender or not. I’m not making any claims based mostly on that.

If that participant is transgender, although, my declare is {that a} transgender participant spiking the ball is not extra harmful than a non-transgender male participant spiking the ball.

I’d additionally assert that in event coed video games, male gamers can and do spike the ball at the place feminine gamers are.

Transgender individuals who transition to feminine are usually bigger and stronger than non-transgender women/ladies, however they are not stronger or extra harmful than non-transgender boys/males.

But this wasn’t co-ed volleyball, proper?  It was a lady’s volleyball sport through which a boy was enjoying for the opposite workforce.

It was a lady’s volleyball sport, sure. I’ve tried to elucidate my level once more above. I’m sorry if it is not coming by means of clearly.


 


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