Physical sports activities, esp when performed by amateurs coached by volunteer academics who barely have time to train of their free time not to mention know greater than the cliff notes handed down by way of the years by OTHER volunteer coaches, are ALWAYS going to contain accidents. I come from a fairly sporty household and there may be hardly ever a time when considered one of my seven nephews/nieces ISN’T injured attributable to participation of their respective gender-segregated sport of alternative.

What a bunch of clowns you all are.

  There are co ed beer pong groups and darts competitions too for sofa potatoes to get some train.  Bringing a rec league up in an try and make a comparability tells me you’re as clueless as I mentioned you’re.    You even undermine your personal level by saying there are particular guidelines when blended….

There are totally different guidelines in match coed video games. However, the accident proven in your unique publish may legally have occurred in a regular match coed sport, with a male participant spiking the ball which strikes a feminine participant midway again within the courtroom. There is a variant known as “reverse coed” the place males gamers cannot be up on the internet to spike, however that’s much less frequent. In my publish, I gave a hyperlink which reveals match play (not rec league) the place precisely these performs occur.

Hey intellectually dishonest shitbag groomer, this incident the place the feminine participant was injured WAS NOT A COED VOLLEYBALL GAME. It was a sport the place a organic male was declared a feminine due to bullshit transgender politics. Go discover some place else to inform your lies.

Hi, jeff37923. Sorry if I wasn’t clear. I used to be not claiming that the sport within the unique publish was coed.

My level is that coed volleyball video games are frequent, and generally (although not at all times) have the scenario the place a male participant can spike the ball that’s acquired by a feminine participant. This is related in estimating the dangers concerned in video games.

Except this wasn’t a coed volleyball sport. It was imagined to be a ladies’s volleyball sport besides it had a man there who hid behind the political bullshit of being a organic male claiming to be trans.

Sorry if I wasn’t clear. I used to be not claiming that the sport within the unique publish was coed.

My level is that coed volleyball video games are frequent, and generally (although not at all times) have the scenario the place a male participant can spike the ball that’s acquired by a feminine participant. This is related in estimating the dangers concerned in video games.

Except this wasn’t a coed volleyball sport. It was imagined to be a ladies’s volleyball sport besides it had a man there who hid behind the political bullshit of being a organic male claiming to be trans.

We’re nonetheless speaking previous one another. Let me attempt to undergo this in steps.

1) The hyperlink from oggsmash’s unique publish was a highschool women volleyball sport.

2) An unnamed particular person claimed that the participant spiking the ball is transgender, although not one of the folks concerned are quoted as confirming that.

3) The article additionally prompt this accident was inevitable as a result of the spiking participant has better power than any non-transgender woman participant may have. Having such power was portrayed as unreasonably harmful for non-transgender woman gamers.

4) I questioned this conclusion. For comparability, I appeared on the instances of each women volleyball and coed volleyball.

5) In information going again 17 years, NCAA information discovered that concussion occasions in ladies’s volleyball was second solely to males’s soccer in frequency.

6) I haven’t got concussion statistics for coed volleyball, however (a) it has been extensively performed in championships for many years, (b) normal coed match guidelines enable precisely the accident proven, the place a male participant spikes the ball and a feminine participant is within the path. I linked to video exhibiting precisely that.

Jhkim is making good sense. If boys taking part in towards women in volleyball do not recurrently injure them, there is not any cause for somebody to count on that letting this boy play towards women was placing them in any hazard.  It may properly have been a whole fluke, the ball hit at simply the worst attainable spot, and never an inevitable factor.  It’s volleyball, not boxing; getting smashed within the face by your opponent isn’t an anticipated final result of taking part in.

That mentioned, the workforce with the women ought to have had the choice to say no to play towards a boy in the event that they felt uncomfortable or in danger from it.  I’ve no objection to ladies competing towards boys, so long as they go in knowledgeable.  Girl desires to play baseball?  Sure.  Football?  Great.  If she will be able to take the hits, extra energy to her.  Same for boys going into women video games, as long as everybody agrees beforehand.  But they need to have the correct to not agree.

jhkim’s argument relies on saying {that a} organic male is identical as a organic feminine so long as that male claims to be a male to feminine trans. That solely is smart in Clown World.

Same with most sports activities….individuals who don’t have any idea of bodily tradition, understanding of the DRASTIC distinction between women and men concerning power and energy manufacturing within the second of efficiency or who simply by no means raise weights or play sports activities don’t perceive this and perhaps by no means will.  Maybe they only ignore actuality interval. I have no idea, I favor to err on the facet that individuals pondering there is no such thing as a distinction in probabilities of accidents when males play towards ladies are simply bookish nerds with zero expertise with sports activities, full contact actions, or any actual makes an attempt at coaching their bodily potential.

Volleyball is definitely the game I’ve essentially the most private expertise with. I performed volleyball recreationally in undergrad, and was in the summertime volleyball league at Fermilab throughout grad faculty. That’s not the identical as prime aggressive play, however it’s one thing I perceive. The league I performed in was blended gender, and certainly, blended gender volleyball is recurrently performed within the U.S. and elsewhere. I simply watched some right here to refresh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-XOz7mIFTQ

Men are usually bigger and stronger than ladies, however there may be nonetheless an extended historical past of aggressive mixed-gender sports activities – like blended doubles tennis and mixed-team volleyball. These have been round for a lot of many years.

In coed volleyball, there are guidelines for equity and for security – however it’s nonetheless true that girls are sometimes hitting again a ball that has been hit by males. According your security argument, coed volleyball ought to have an unacceptable stage of harm such that it’s banned, no matter any transgender points. I do not see any motion for such, although. I see numerous such tournaments being held with no controversy.

I am unable to discover from fast search any concussion charges for coed in comparison with single-gender volleyball. I’m not claiming that I do know the speed is identical. But I additionally do not assume it is going to be off the charts as you declare.

But this wasn’t co-ed volleyball, proper?  It was a woman’s volleyball sport during which a boy was taking part in for the opposite workforce.

No, you’re being intellectually dishonest and NOW claiming that the participant spiking the ball was not a male-to-female trans. At first, you had been dismissing the harm to the feminine participant primarily based upon your argument that coed volleyball is identical as all ladies’s or all males’s volleyball – which will get thrown out the window if you declare {that a} organic male trans is identical as a girl.

I do not know if the participant spiking the ball is transgender or not. I’m not making any claims primarily based on that.

If that participant is transgender, although, my declare is {that a} transgender participant spiking the ball is not extra harmful than a non-transgender male participant spiking the ball.

I’d additionally assert that in match coed video games, male gamers can and do spike the ball at the place feminine gamers are.

Transgender individuals who transition to feminine are usually bigger and stronger than non-transgender women/ladies, however they are not stronger or extra harmful than non-transgender boys/males.

But this wasn’t co-ed volleyball, proper?  It was a woman’s volleyball sport during which a boy was taking part in for the opposite workforce.

It was a woman’s volleyball sport, sure. I’ve tried to clarify my level once more above. I’m sorry if it is not coming by way of clearly.