If you do not consider within the headline for the article that began this dialog, then why have you ever been basing you argument for a web page and a half on it? It has solely been in the previous few posts, after your bullshit coed stance was destroyed, that you just determined to attempt to say that the headline is fake and the participant inflicting the harm wasn’t a trans.

C’mon groomer, lie some extra!

Read my first submit to this thread, reply #1 dated Oct 20. Here is the final line from that:

As a facet observe, from studying the information round this, not one of the folks concerned have even stated that the scholar in query is transgender. I am unable to inform the place that declare got here from. Maybe they’re transgender, however it is not said.

Link: https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/high-school-volleyball-player-injured-in-game-against-trans-player-and-people/msg1233424/#msg1233424

It has solely been in the previous few posts, after your bullshit coed stance was destroyed, that you just determined to attempt to say that the headline is fake and the participant inflicting the harm wasn’t a trans.

Read my first submit to this thread, reply #1 dated Oct 20. Here is the final line from that:

As a facet observe, from studying the information round this, not one of the folks concerned have even stated that the scholar in query is transgender. I am unable to inform the place that declare got here from. Maybe they’re transgender, however it is not said.

Link: https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/high-school-volleyball-player-injured-in-game-against-trans-player-and-people/msg1233424/#msg1233424

I perceive how actuality is inconvenient to your narrative, however this is not the primary time that you’ve been a disingenuous twat. Or are all of those information sources improper?

1) In the bolded line above, you claimed that it was “solely in the previous few posts” that I supposedly stated the headline was false — that I had shifted my place. I then posted how I stated precisely the identical factor in my first submit to this thread in reply #1, which reveals I’ve not shifted something.

2) I additionally by no means claimed that the information sources have been improper. Saying that I do not immediately consider one thing is not the identical as saying they’re improper.

3) Whether the person pupil is transgender has no bearing on what else I’ve stated, which was about normal insurance policies about volleyball and the supposed hazard of male gamers spiking the ball at feminine gamers. Again, non-transgender male gamers spike the ball at feminine gamers in coed video games. Transgender gamers aren’t stronger or extra harmful than males, so the hazard is not any better than coed video games.

While there are people who find themselves claiming that having six inches of peak and fifteen kilos of muscle over the opposite gamers does not give the MtFs a bonus in sports activities, jhkim hasn’t made that declare on this thread.  He’s said {that a} boy enjoying towards ladies in volleyball is not inherently harmful for the ladies.  Which, with the disclaimer that I do not care sufficient to truly dig for harm statistics in highschool volleyball, feels like a good sufficient declare to make.  It’s hardly a full-contact sport.

If jhkim had claimed {that a} dude had zero benefit in attain or power over ladies regardless of residing 80% of his life awash in testosterone and it was completely truthful and heckin’ legitimate uwu, then I might name bullshit.    But that is a really completely different declare from saying that he is most likely not a hazard to the opposite gamers.

Thanks, Valatar.

To make clear a bit — I do suppose there’s a hazard of concussion and different harm. But tons of highschool sports activities have important hazard of harm no matter intercourse. Among highschool ladies’ sports activities, soccer has the very best concussion charge. Girl’s volleyball has a big concussion charge, round one-third that of boys’ soccer and half that of lady’s soccer. Even cheerleading has a big concussion charge, unsurprising given the acrobatic flips they typically do.

cf. https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/144/5/e20192180/38225/Concussion-Incidence-and-Trends-in-20-High-School

Still, ladies soccer and coed volleyball are typically thought-about throughout the acceptable ranges of threat, and underneath normal match guidelines coed video games enable precisely the play seen within the authentic submit, with a male participant spiking the ball in direction of a feminine participant.

Except it wasn’t a coed sport.

It was presupposed to be an all ladies sport.

Except one of many ladies wasn’t.

The actuality that’s inconvenient for jhkim.

Except it wasn’t a coed sport.

It was presupposed to be an all ladies sport.

Except one of many ladies wasn’t.

That does not dispute something I stated. I really feel like I’ve phrased this many instances, however to precise it as a query. Consider two instances:

1) A non-transgender boy spikes the ball in a coed sport
2) A transgender participant spikes the ball in a ladies sport

Which of those is extra harmful to lady gamers? On what foundation do you declare that?

To my thoughts, the transgender participant is not any better power than the non-transgender male gamers, so the hazard is at most equal.

A soldier will get shot at on the battlefield.  As a retailer clerk the identical particular person will get shot at throughout a theft.  Which of those is extra harmful?  Therefore, it is no massive deal for criminals to make use of weapons in a theft.

Except it wasn’t a coed sport.

It was presupposed to be an all ladies sport.

Except one of many ladies wasn’t.

That does not dispute something I stated. I really feel like I’ve phrased this many instances, however to precise it as a query. Consider two instances:

1) A non-transgender boy spikes the ball in a coed sport
2) A transgender participant spikes the ball in a ladies sport

Which of those is extra harmful to lady gamers? On what foundation do you declare that?

To my thoughts, the transgender participant is not any better power than the non-transgender male gamers, so the hazard is at most equal.

Because the expectation in a GIRL’S sport is that they are going to be enjoying different GIRLS.

Not boys. GIRLS. Do you comprehend this? Did it go by too quick? Do you want me to spell it out extra clearly?