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The Initiative Behaving Badly | The Ancient Gaming Noob

This little bit of null sec drama has completely nothing to do with me, however I nonetheless wish to observe it down simply in case it comes again to hang-out anyone at a later date.  Also, it’s Imperium drama, which implies it’s near house.

The quick story is that when The Bastion folded up store some time again, The Initiative took over its house in Fountain, shopping for out its buildings, flipping the sovereignty, and giving everyone time to get themselves located in new alliances.

Then then took one of many Fortizars that had previously belonged to The Bastion, let it run out of gasoline, blew it up, and looted all of the stuff that dropped.  Another loot pinata, akin to issues we noticed within the rage wormhole (all wormhole buildings are loot pinatas) or with the former Army of Mango Keepstar earlier this 12 months.

The Initiative brand in spaceships

So the place is the drama?

For those that have been following alongside at house, the Forsaken Fortress replace again in May of 2020 modified the principles for Upwell buildings.  After that landed, unfueled buildings would now not ship their contents into asset security, reneging on one more CCP assertion.  So should you let a construction run out of gasoline, then blow it up, no person who something within the construction will get their stuff again.

The Fortizar in query coughed up one thing on the order of 300 billion ISK in stuff when it was blown up.

That is a number of stuff.  I imply, the story of BOSS bilking Fraternity out of 100 billion ISK rated a narrative over on Massively OP.  This is 3 times that quantity in unwell gotten items.

As it seems, this Fortizar was a staging base for The Bastion when it returned to Fountain after World War Bee, the place the place folks moved their stuff as they settled again into the constellations that had been their house earlier than the conflict.

They later put up a Keepstar and moved into that, however folks depart stuff behind once they assume it’s protected.  So when the Fortizar was blown up, that 300 billion ISK in stuff was all from Imperium members.

This is one thing you do to your enemies, not your allies.

So how did The Initiative justify this?

  • It was their Fortizar to do with as they wished
  • They solely agreed to take down the Keepstar
  • They marked the Fortizar “Do Not Use” for six months
  • They instructed Imperium management about their plan

That is a few grade A bullshit rationalization.  The first two are pouty toddler stage arguments.  The third doesn’t lower any ice as a result of the coalition marks buildings “Do Not Use” on a regular basis, however by no means blows them up, so there could be no expectation from anyone that this might be the consequence.

Then there’s the ultimate one about telling Imperium management.  You’ll observe they don’t say who they instructed (any person in corps diplo who didn’t understand the ramifications maybe?), nor do they reference how their informing management resulted in pings concerning the impending destruction, nor how this info was introduced up on the weekly coalition hearth.  That could be supporting proof of their intention to tell.

No, they did the naked minimal to coated their asses as a result of they wished the ISK.

And you solely must have a look at the killmail to show that.

They didn’t invite their alliance do come and take part on some content material, a lot much less the coalition.  No, the killmail has 5 folks on it, all from their management, for a kill completed in late EU time on per week evening when every part was quiet as a result of they didn’t wish to draw any consideration to it.  They knew they have been doing one thing shitty they usually wished to do it whereas no person was watching.  Thieves within the evening.

The solely cause I find out about any of it is because some former folks from The Bastion are pissed off about this screw job so Brisc Rubal devoted 50 minutes of final week’s Meta Show to rationalizing the actions of The Initiative.

He mentioned he was a lawyer and will argue either side, but when that was his demonstration of how he may very well be an advocate for either side of a case, I wouldn’t rent him for a job that required it.  It was all a arrange of weak objections knocked down one after the opposite with arguably weaker rationalizations.

He ought to have adopted within the steps of his management in The Initiative and simply saved his mouth shut and prevented drawing consideration to the whereas factor… and all of the extra so as a result of it made for probably probably the most tedious 50 minutes ever on the Meta Show.

The summing up of the argument was that folks taking part in the sport depend and individuals who aren’t taking part in don’t.  The management of The Initiative wished their stuff so that they took it.

So it goes.

Anyway, as I famous on the high, I’m solely laying this out as a result of I’m wondering if this received’t come again to chew any person within the ass at some future date.  We shall see.  But it already seems like they’ll be digging into that pile of ISK to pay out some SRP.



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